David Hudson in
April 2 & 3 1994
I am here
to introduce for the first time, David Hudson, cotton farmer from
Mr. Mike Latimer,
I am not going to give you anything that can be construed as paranoid, there
are no plots, there are no agendas, there is nothing negative about this. I
hope you all find it as enlightening as I have.
Ah, this is
the first time I have ever spoken just basically to the public.
We have
over seventeen years of research and over five and one half million dollars has
been spent to get to the point where we are at right now. Our work began about
1975 or 1976 and we were working with analysis of natural materials. You know,
on our farm we do soils analysis, antitoxin analysis, these types of standard
analytical procedures. Basically, we had soils that we were sending it to
commercial laboratories and they were giving an analysis on this soil and the
analysis was not agreeing with what we were observing in the soil and so we
began a process, basically analytical chemistry, to separate out everything
that we were told was there. We finally got down to a specific material that we
were being told was iron, silica and aluminum.
Now, I am
going to skim over quite a few of the early years, because we want to get on to
the gist of all this. But, basically, this iron, silica and aluminum did
explain something about this but it didn't explain all of the properties. One
thing that was observed was when this was dissolved in acid it reduced out of
the acid and filtered onto an actual filter paper, that as it dried it would
explode. I have never seen any iron, silica and aluminum that would explode.
Finally
after three years we were able to get rid of all of the silica, all of the iron
and all of the aluminum, and I was told by a Ph.D. at
He told me
that if I would give him a $350,000 grant that we would assign a graduate student
study it. I had already paid him about $18,000 because he represented he could
solve my problem and he didn't. And so, I decided we could get more for the
money if we did the work ourselves.
Basically,
I spent the next three and one half years working with a gentleman who was
trained at
This is the
way the Soviet Academy of Sciences said that the analysis had to be performed.
Basically DC arc spectroscopy and, ladies, bear with me, it will get better. DC
arc spectroscopy the material was placed on an arc electrode, and arc was
struck, and it vaporizes in 15 seconds and when it vaporized it emitted light
spectra. And that light spectra goes through prisms and it goes into the
rainbow spectrum and certain light frequencies appear for certain elements.
When you burn this for the first 10 or 15 seconds you get traces of iron,
silica and aluminum and then everything stops reading. But if you have the
excitation chamber and you look into this inner gas, through this last wall
into this inner gas you can see on the electrode there is still a white
material and 20 seconds goes by, 30 seconds goes by, 40 seconds goes by, 50
seconds goes by, 60 seconds goes by, 70 seconds goes by and then it begins to
read. You get palladium and platinum, then rhodium, then iridium, then osmium.
They come off in the sequence of their boiling temperatures. They come off in
the sequence of their vaporization temperatures and these are procedures that
have been developed by the Soviet Academy of Sciences. A 15 second burn simply
reads the exterior but it doesn't read the matrix.
The amazing
thing was, we decided that if it started reading at 70 seconds then let us stop
the burn at 65 seconds when there is absolutely nothing there but carbon
development. We stopped the burn and sent it for neutron activation analysis,
the most sophisticated analytical probing used in the world. No precious metals
detected. Now, you begin to scratch your head and say, now, wait a minute, are
we creating elements? Was it possible that these elements exist in a form that
no one knows about?
I went to a
Ph.D. analytical chemist, a graduate of
We were
able to separate the rhodium, as a blood red chloride, we were able to separate
the iridium as a light green chloride, and we were able to separate the osmium
by distillations and purifications, but as separated elements they were still
not identifiable by instrumentation. They had all the properties of the metal,
but they were invisible to instrumental analysis. As pure separated material.
We actually
prepared chloride salt, blood red chloride salt, which was very unique in the
color itself, we sent it to
We began to do magnetic field studies on the
material. Because all of the material in its hydrogen reduced form was magnetic,
and yet when you anneal it, it becomes non magnetic.
The
protonated material which is the last step in the production of the high
created single element is to produce the hydrogen monoatomic material. When we
anneal the proton away in the same way that amorphous silicon is produced, you
end up with a snow white powder. A snow white powder of gold, a snow white
powder of silver, a snow white powder of palladium, a snow white powder of
platinum, a snow white powder of rhodium, a snow white powder of iridium, a
snow white powder of ruthenium, and a snow white powder of osmium.
We learned
how to take the metal salts that were being sold commercially, that people buy
in the electronics industry and the high-tech industries and how to make these
products disappear. We can literally take the rare rhodium chloride, dissolve
it into acid and through a process of disaggregation of the metallic salt,
literally make them disappear. You still have a blood red solution, it is still
there, but the machine no longer can read it.
Now this
pretty heavy duty stuff I am laying on you, and pro tunc
it is that all the analytical data that you are receiving, whether it be on
herbs, whether it be on tissue in your body, is potentially incorrect. Okay.
Once you are aware that these elements exist, it changes your whole outlook
about everything.
The
material when it turns white, now I will use an element. Gold is one of the
elements. Gold…most people think they understand gold, at least they recognize
it when they see the metal. Gold, when it is produced as monoatomic, protonated
gold out of an acid solution is light gray, almost black, but when you anneal
the proton away, it goes white.
When this
annealing occurs, and we did what is called thermographic
metric analysis, it is a procedure whereby you can heat and weigh the sample at
the same time. A very sophisticated machine that it costs about $800 a month to
rent. Very expensive machine, made by
Now this is
very disturbing to the Ph.D. analytical chemist trying to do a mass balance on
all of the material. Yet you can take the 5/9ths white powder and convert it
back to metal and it weighs a gram. Now where did the 4/9ths go?
When we
were doing this procedure, we were heating this in a magnetic field. We were
told by the manufacturer that there was no magnetic field, but there is a
magnetic field. The heating element was bifilar wound which means that the
electricity was wound one way and another wire goes right beside it to cancel
the field. And the heating coils were bifilar wound and you have magnetic
standards that you put into the machine and heat them and they are non magnetic
and they become magnetic and they lose their magnetism and you weigh them and
there is no magnetic field.
Yet you put
this stuff in there and they could literally make it weigh 300%, the beginning weight,
or you can make it weigh less than the planetinium (?) weight. Now, this is very
disturbing to the people watching it. We talked to the experts over at Stanford
and they said that the only material that would do this, the only material that
would respond to this tiny magnetic field is a superconductor. A
superconductor. But this is a superconductor at 600 degrees Centigrade. Not
only room temperature but without
red heat conducting. It literally gets invisible when it is in a perfect
superconducting state. You can't see it, but as you cool it back down, you can
see it again. It is a snow white powder.
It is a
snow white powder that has no chemistry. It is a snow white powder that has no
crystal structure. It is a snow white powder that not only is not a gas,
because it is an arrangement coupled to itself and literally you can pick it up
and hold it and weigh it as 5/9ths of its true mass. It literally weighs 5/9ths
because it is interacting with the earth's magnetic field. And a superconductor
produces around it what is called a Meissner field and a Meissner field cannot
be penetrated by any external magnetic field. None. And it resists breaking the
magnetic lines of force.
The earth's
magnetic field of several Gauss is a huge magnetic field for a superconductor.
In fact, to give you some idea of the sensitivity of a superconductor, a
superconductor will show light, a single element superconductor, will throw
light in response to a magnetic field of two times ten to the minus 15 ergs.
Now for you non technical people, what is an erg? There are 10 to the eighteen
power ergs in a Gauss, ten times ten, times ten, times ten, times ten, eighteen
times, there is that many ergs in one Gauss. This will
respond to two times 10 to the minus 15th ergs, or .000000000000000015 times
with a two of one erg. It literally is so sensitive a magnetic field that you
can run your hand under the tube that you are producing the white powder in and
the white powder flies around in the tube in response to your body. But you take
a magnet and put under the tube and there is no response at all, because this
is too much magnet. It is the subtle field that this responds to. Dramatic
responses.
In fact a
pure, single element superconductor can flow up to 700,000 amps per square foot
with no volts, forever and forever, and forever and it forms around it the
proof that it is a superconductor. The test that you have a superconductor is
not the test of conductivity, and the only reason I am laying all this
foundation out for you is because it has implications from here on. A
superconductor by definition will not allow any magnetic field to enter the
sample. A superconductor, by definition, has no voltage potential in the
sample, if you take a voltmeter and two wires like you use on most surfaces to
measure resistance and you put it on a superconducting material and you turn on
the batteries, it will read zero. Because it takes the voltage to get the
electron off the wire into the sample, and it takes the voltage potential to
get it out of the sample and onto the wire. But the material will not allow
this potential to exist. So the only way you can get energy into the
superconductor is to tune the resonance frequency of the conductor to the
frequency that the superconductor is superconducting and then the energy flows.
The
electrons flow on in pairs. It is no longer Fermion physics, the electron is
called a Fermion in physics, it becomes a boson and flows on as an electron
pair. It doesn't have to come off. It doesn't have to go any place like
electricity. It literally can keep feeding energy into this superconductor that
just keeps getting greater and greater and greater. It does not have to go
anywhere. It literally flows within the superconductor as light forever,
forever and forever. If you want to tap it, if you want to take the energy off,
you have to tune the frequency of the conducting material through the
superconductor and acquire voltage potential and off comes the energy as
electrons again. Okay?
Now, we are
through with the boring part. Once you realize that these elements exist. Are
you with me? There are actually eleven elements. It is possible for these
elements to exist in this state. It is a new state. However, it has been
confirmed by the national government, it has been confirmed by Oakridge
National Laboratories, and it is the hottest topic in nuclear physics right
now. About 1985 the scientists observed that the heavy elements, the big heavy
nuclides, that they would spontaneously fragment and in their inquisition as to
why these nuclides, the non radioactive isotopes, why did they just bust apart,
they found that some of the rare earths would do this also. The rare earths do
not have that large a nucleus. The rare earths are not cumbersome nuclei. They
are relatively light and are found in the middle of the Periodic Table. They
actually found that it has to do with the configuration of the nucleus. And the
word that they basically accepted now in the industry is asymmetrically
deformed high spin physics. And the nucleus no longer is spherical, the nucleus
becomes deformed and goes to a high spin state, and in this state they
theorized that these elements should be a superconductor.
There are
people in nuclear magnetic spectroscopy who have known since the 1960s that
when you apply these tremendous magnetic fields and cause atoms to spin up,
that they pass energy with no resistance, no net loss of energy. If you could
produce a system of high spin atoms, then these atoms, they should
theoretically be a superconductor and the same way the energy goes around one
atom, forever and ever, it should go around a system of many atoms forever and
ever. Okay? The atoms are not permanently bound. They are actually are out
about five to six angstroms apart, depending on the element. They are nestled
in the coulomb wave which emanates from this resonator. The next atom sucks them away and perpetuates
it. The next atom nestles in the wave and perpetuates it.
In fact the
Russian physicist, Andre Sakharov theorized that, and Harold Puthoff, I think
some of you know him, has written about this and expounded this theory; that,
in fact, a resonance coupled quantum oscillator, would literally weight 5/9ths
of the weight in the earth's magnetic field. And it turns out that is exactly
the weight loss that we observed. Okay.
Now, what
we did is... these elements could be anywhere, and so we went down to the super
market and we bought brain tissue. Pig's brains and we brought it back to the
laboratory and we destroyed the organic material with fuming sulfuric acid, and
we did a qualitative and quantitative analysis on the brain tissue. Did you
know that in excess of 5 percent of the brain tissue by dry matter weight is
ORME?
It literally
is the light that flows within our brain and our nervous tissue. It literally
is the analogy that I will give you that most people won't understand in this
group, and that is why I am letting the public hear this, because they are not
ready for it yet. If you are familiar with the hologram, you understand that a
laser, a single frequency light if sent through a beam splitter, one half is
encoded with vibrational information from the hologram. A 35 mm negative, or
whatever. The other is called a reference beam, and we brought that together
and you have the hologram.
Your
If anybody
does a standard analysis, they don't see this. It is called carbon because
there is no absorption or emission spectra associated with these elements; with
standard analysis. But it is, in fact, the emanator
of the light of life. It is, in fact, what is in your body that makes you you. It is the light bulb and the projector that creates
this hologram that we call you.
You take
the superconducting wave, is just like a laser. It is a single frequency light,
the only difference between it and a normal laser is that the normal laser
produces a wave length, right? A superconductor produces two wave lengths to
form opposites. A wave length and a mirror image wave length. The net result is
a null. The net result is that you can't measure it because they cancel each
other. There is no way to measure the superconducting light. In fact there is
no way to measure light within our body. You poke it and it responds, but one
day you poke it and it no longer responds. The light is gone.
The
Meissner field is the aura. The Meissner field around all living systems is the
aura; that non-polar field that literally exists around every living thing.
Life is pretty simple, as long as it is just physics and chemistry.
Ah, I
really, really felt embarrassed when my uncle walked up to me and handed me a
book that was actually a Time-Life series book, called Secrets of the
Alchemists. It just came in the mail one day. And it talked about the white
powdered gold. At 1160 degrees the white powder fuses into a transparent glass.
And it talks about a transparent glass. Now what are the chances that there are
two white powders of gold? What are the chances that there are two gold
glasses?
The only
thing is that in this literature it says that it is the cure for every disease
known to man. It says that it literally is the container of the light of life.
That if you stand in its presence you don't age and if you partake of it you
can live forever.
Well, we
knew that these elements were in our living system. But what if, and this is
just thinking out loud. But what if, we are deficient in those materials. What
if we need a little extra?
So, we
decided we would do a little experimenting with it. First we began with animal
studies, we took animals that the veterinarians were trying to cure and had
given up. They had tumors, they had cysts, they had tick fever, they had valley
fever, and they had every antibiotic that modern medicine has had been given to
this animal and they couldn't get him over it. We injected iridium and it got
well. Within three weeks all of the disease was gone. So they stopped injecting
him and the disease came back again. So they began to inject him again and all
the time he was taking these antibiotics and they were having no effect at all.
And I said, inject him again, and it went away again; so the doctor was
sufficiently impressed.
He said,
"You know, I have a fellow that worked for me here that has AIDS. He has
the HIV virus. He was virtually dead. He was so bad that he couldn't eat. He
was being fed with an intravenous tube. He had sores in his throat, he couldn't
swallow. The doctor gave him 2 mm injections of this, for three days and then
four days without. Three days and then four days without. In three weeks this
man was eating normally, he was dressing himself and even attended a wedding
back in Indiana.
Now, Aids
is not like cancer, you don't just spontaneously recover from Aids. The T-cell
count went up 600 percent. His white blood cell count went from 1,200 to 6,000,
and we were impressed with these results.
We decided
to work with some people that were not quite dead yet to see if we could find
out what it does.
In the published
literature, the modern science right now, Sys-platinum and Carbono-Platinum
have been used for cancer cures. If you look at the literature and read the
literature; the modern medical community has concluded that these elements seem
to interact with
They never
chemically bond. It never becomes associated with the RNA, the
Well, this
was getting pretty heavy and pretty serious. In fact, if you really pick up the
literature, you find out that apparently this was known to ancient people. You
find out that in ancient Egypt that this was knowledge that the Pharaoh’s high
priests knew.
But it
wasn't for everyone, it was administered in the Great Pyramid, it was taken
during the 40 day fast. There was ten days of drinking only water, and on the
11th day to the 30th day of the procedure, for a total of
40 days, you ate the manna, the "what is it" and the water.
If you take
the white powdered gold and you mix it in water, it forms a gelatinous
suspension, that looks just like semen. The material was called the golden tear
from the eye of Horus. That which issues from the mouth of the Creator, the
spittle, or the semen of the Father in Heaven.
Our real
knowledge about the bride in the bridal chamber, the coming of the Father in
Heaven to be inseminated by the opening of the mouth ceremony, to be
inseminated by the Father in Heaven and regenerate our bodies, total renewal of
our bodies, the perfecting of the
Blessed
will be the man who will overcome, for he shall be given the hidden manna, the
white stone of the purest kind upon which will be written a new name. The
streets of the New Jerusalem will be paved with gold so pure as to be like unto
transparent glass. And the foundation to the New Jerusalem will be like unto
transparent glass. That is in Revelations.
I don't
belong to a church. I am not trying to... interest you in a church, but it is
conspicuous in the Bible. It makes you stop and think about this a little bit.
At this
time, there are Aids patients, there are cancer patients, and there are MS
patients that are [taking this]. Basically, every disease that originates with
a problem in the
We are
mainly working with rhodium and iridium because in your body there is rhodium
and iridium. The gold is basically set aside.
But the
implications to this, the fact that it is in your body, the fact that it is in
every herb that is used for regeneration and repair, and no one knows it, it is
in herbal tea, it is in Essiac tea, in pure aloe vera. It is in all these
products that we have been told that this will regenerate your body and no one
knows it. There are three or four milligrams in these natural materials. That
is why they do what they do. But the aloe vera, people say that there is
nothing in there, but there is if you know how to analyze for it.
Okay. I
think, I think that I am trying to keep this short, and trying to keep it
concise, and basically what I would like to do is, tonight we are going to have
a workshop on the physics of room temperature superconductors. The physics of
cold fusion, the physics of this matter and why the superconductor. And
discussion of the effects of superconductors and how it relates to these
technologies, basically scientific. The workshop tomorrow will discuss the
medicine, the effects on the body, the observational data, and basically the
medicine aspect of it and basically the philosophical aspect.
The
material has been administered in 1 to two milligram doses. According to the
data it will totally perfect our bodies. It takes 250 milligrams per day for 30
days. No one has taken it in these amounts yet. But we do have the material in
these amounts and the testing will probably commence in the next month to a
month and a half on a healthy person. As you know, there are aspects in the
Your body
right now is rhodium and iridium light. It is OR light, or OR
gold. It is the Hebrew word or the highest light. Okay. When we literally fill
ourselves with this light, through ingestion, we literally move up in resonance
to a higher light. Okay?
It is the
manna. The Lord told the Hebrew people “you have not kept the covenant, so the
manna is being taken from you but it will come back in the end times and you
will be a nation of high priests, and an elect high priesthood”. Not just high
priests that take the manna, it will be for everyone. The disciples asked
Christ, "When will we see you again? And he said, "When you have
prepared the proper food." "What is that?" According to the
angels, it is the food of God, and when you have on your proper garment. Your
rainbow garment, the enhanced Meissner field.
There is a new
World Order coming. There is a new World Order coming but it isn't the one
George Bush saw.
I hope that
this information is received well by this group. I hope that this group
respects what I have said. It is science, it is physics, and it is in the published
literature. I will tonight show you the Physics Review Letters, the Physics
Review, the Scientific American article, and literally these elements that were
made by the government and confirmed to be in this state. I can show you the
emission of the gamma radiation out of this stuff. It is all in the published
literature if you know where to look for it.
So, I would
like to have a short announcement. Now, I have not spoken in public before, so
you will excuse me. I don't have experience with this? Is there any aspect of
this that I can share with you people at this time? If there is a general
question... There we go.
Question: I
would like to ask you to share with the group what the connection that you made
with your ancestors and the Holy Grail... is that not okay?
Answer:
This is the right group. All right, when I found out about the philosophy
stuff, it really embarrassed me. That is the only word that I can say, I really
felt embarrassed, that my money and the five and one half million dollars is my
money. I have to answer to myself for that. Fortunately I have an understanding
wife.
I found
that in doing the research. I was told to read a book called, Holy Blood, Holy
Grail. Some of you have read it? For these people, you understand what I am talking
about. It is about the de Guise family and the divine right of kings. It is
about the family and the group that is following this group, and this mystery
and the investigation by Michael Baigent, Richard Leigh and Henry Lincoln, all
over Europe.
Well, what
this is all about is the blood line. Okay. The descendants of Solomon and
David. Not Christ. He is the heir. Christ had to be of this blood line, but his
family carried this blood line. For you who are interested in
Very specific prophecy. This is 1994. There are five years to get this out to the
world, okay. The family disappeared from France, the other family are in
Germany and Spain right now, and people are saying that this is the man that is
going to plant the golden tree of life. Is this the man that is going to bring
about the New Jerusalem? Is this the man that is going to be this important man
in history because he is descended from this blood line? That is the gist of
it. They never say this in Holy Blood, Holy Grail, I don't know why; they kept
talking about Christ's children for some reason. Well, what they don't
understand is that Joseph of Arimathea was his bloodline. He was Mary's uncle.
His daughter, Ann, traveled out of the Holy Land with Joseph of Arimathea, up
into what is western France now, settled right next to Brittany, and there
became known as Anjou [Ann the Jew?]; which is where she lived in and where her
descendants came from. And literally the area of, France is where she lived.
Geoffrey d'Anjou was a descendant of hers. Geoffrey was nick named
"Plantagenet" and went over to England and married Matilda [or Maud],
and their son was Henry II, the first of the Davidic blood line kings of
England. And everybody that the King of England has to trace their bloodline
back to this bloodline or they can't be the king or queen of England. In France
the early day d'Anjous were also carrying this blood, and all the way down to
Marie Antoinette, and when she was beheaded that ended that line in France.
However, that side of the family is the mysterious side. It disappeared, well,
they went to Germany to get away from prosecution from the Pope, and by the
King of France, because if you were of the Davidic blood line, and you were in
a Christian nation, you believed that the Davidic blood line should be in your
kingship. That he should be your ruler, and so the king who didn't carry this
blood thought these people were a threat to him and he was trying to kill them
and get rid of them. So these people went to Germany and then immigrated to New
France, New Orleans.
Okay. Two
years ago, my cousin joined the Mormon Church, and the first thing they told her
was to do her genealogy. And she came up and said, Dave, guess what, you are
related to Marie de Guise’s daughter Mary, Queen of Scots. Well, my great,
great, great grandmother, was Hanna de Guise, daughter of Christopher de Guise,
brother of Claude de Guise, and so I am a descendant of the family.
The Hebrew
name of the golden field of light is the OR Tree. OR meaning the Golden Tree.
Okay. And in "Holy Blood, Holy Grail" they talk about one aspect of
the Orme. The name of my patent in 1988, before I knew
any of this was, Obitally Rearranged Monoatomic Elements or ORMEs.
This Grail
is not for sale. I am sorry, this material is free to those people who are
properly prepared, understand what it is, and are literally ready to become the
true Latter Day Saints. At the time that we are totally comfortable with the
effects of the body, the changes that are going to occur, I will be in touch
with Dean and we will get the word to you. Okay?
This isn't
for everyone. This is as big a step as you will ever take in your life. I have
given it some very serious consideration and very serious thought. For those of
you in your various areas of research, this understanding of the physics of
these elements in the body, understanding how they work, how they access the ORME
energy, how it throws light within the body, is very important to proper health
and nutrition. Okay?
It
literally is a return to the original state. The state that man was created in.
It’s what the Hebrews call the Adam Kadmon, the first man.
The judgment
will come about when there is a return of the Ancient of Days. That is what the
Bible says. Who is the Ancient of Days? The oldest man. When the original man
that was created here on earth [returns], and you can telepathically read
everyone's heart and mind, when there is no more lies, no more deceit, no more
deception, no more abuse, everyone knows there is no need for doctors, there is
no need for lawyers, there is no need for courts, there is no need for
government officials, there is no need for any of this. You no longer need to
eat unless you choose to. Because you are literally being fed on the magnetic
fields of the universe. You don't need housing because you are not affected by
heat and cold any more. You don't need energy; you can be anywhere you want to
be, because you are not of this space time. You literally exclude even gravity
from the magnetic field and you literally can be anywhere you choose to be.
The bad
guys can't control you any more. They have nothing that you want. You don't need
it and you don't want it. You know, you are free. It is the ultimate
Emancipation Proclamation. It is science, it is here now, whether you believe
it or not, it ain't going to change anything. It will
not go away. Okay.
(Applause.)
It sounds
simple enough doesn't it. Who has a hand up here. Here is a question.
Question:
Can you describe the piece of the hologram and how it shows the back as well as
the front?
Hudson’s
response: Yeah, I don't know how many people here are aware of or have read the
book, the Holographic Universe. It gives a real good description in there of
the holography and basically the superconducting wave, the beam splitter, the
encoding of the information into the beam, and then intersecting these two
lights again.
The thing
that is amazing to me is that you can take a 35 mm photograph, that is a
picture of a woman standing on this rocky knoll, and you could literally cut
out the corner down here that is the knoll, and it has no woman standing, it is
just a knoll. And you can take that much of the negative, and it has the whole
picture in it. Only you can't see it, but it is all there. It is just changed
from the original. But the amazing thing is that if this woman is standing in a
backless dress, and you have taken a front view of her, when you project this
hologram, you can walk around the hologram and she has got the backless dress
on. All of the vibrational information of this woman is encoded in that silver
negative. And now the light has it encoded in it. It literally is encoded in
the light, so that when they intersect, you have the hologram.
The only
difference between this and the laser light. It is a single frequency light,
just like the laser, is that it now has two dimensions, instead of the one like
the ordinary holography. And so now the rest of the beam is with the wave. And
so this is why you go up and this hologram has substance to it. It resists you.
This hologram is you. It is encoded with the vibrational information of your
Another
question?
Question:
David, in reference to the qualities of gold and light being so similar I
always think that it is an interesting metaphor, that the Latin symbol for gold
is Au which is the two letters from the word aura or light.
I lived in
Asia for five years in the Himalayas and when I was there and I had a healing
experience, I was given something called a jewel pill by the Tibetan llamas and
it contains gold among other elements and the Ayurvedic uses this as well. And
it had incredibly feeling powers of healing, in about three hours on my whole
body and mind.
I was just
wondering if you could compare the mantric or
chemical processes that they use, which obviously do not involve the equipment
that you have, with what you are doing. Do you have any knowledge of that?
Hudson’s
response: Well, first of all, if it was a pill it didn't come from a mantra. A
pill, they produced it. When you check with the people in India, you find that
most of these people ascribe to the teachings of Ayurveda, and you will find
out that there is a Ayurvedic medicine and when you get the most ancient
Ayurvedic, you will find out that they talk about white powders that were found
in areas where you mine gold. They didn't have the word rhodium iridium,
palladium; they call it the iron that was found in the areas.
The
Maharishi has personally been informed about this and he has said that it is
the stuff. It is the only endorsement of a Western technology this man has ever
made. He has always endorsed Eastern technologies, but when he heard of this,
he said, "This is the stuff." The Ayurvedas
refer to this as the soma, prana, manna, I mean it depends on what tradition it
comes from, but it is an ancient understanding that has diffused down through
society.
I went to
Rabbi Plotkin, in Temple Beth Israel, in Phoenix,
where I am from, and said, "Have you ever heard of the white powdered
gold?" And he said, "Oh yes, but to our knowledge no one knows how to
make it." He said, "there are two groups, one in Jerusalem, and one
over in LA who are intensely studying the Cabala, trying to learn how to make
it but to our knowledge the last time that it was known how to be made was in
the time of the first temples, before it was destroyed. When I told him that I
had the USA patent on it, he said, "Dave, you have got a lot of very
serious decisions to make." This is when I awakened to the fact that I had
something bigger than I knew, you know.
Next
question: David, what you are doing, chemically, is it like what some of us,
like myself are doing inter-dimensionally,
spiritually, with building a light body process in the body?
Hudson’s
response: It appears that by eating the correct foods, particularly a vegetarian
diet, eating certain herbs, drinking herbal teas, will concentrate some of
this, and by meditation, that you can increase the light flow in your body.
You can't
measure it. There is no instrument that we have to measure it, but, yes, it can
be done in that way. It might be interesting to you people, you have heard of
the Maharishi Mahesh Yogi, and you have also heard of Sai
Baba, and most of you have heard that he manifests this stuff out of the air.
It is called the vibhuti, and it is over 95 percent iridium in the orbitally rearranged
monoatomic state. He calls it vibhuti and it literally is ingested by
him. And it builds up in his stomach, and it creates a material called lingam,
have you heard of the lingam. He actually regurgitates this stuff, back up, and
it is worshiped as a holy material. Okay.
Well, there
is a science to this holy material. What I am bringing here. My job is to bring
scientific understanding to this and take it out to the world. What religion
has failed to do in the last 2,000 years, science can do in two or three years,
okay. This is understandable now by science.
Question:
Is that the same Maharishi that is headquartered, that has a school or area in
Iowa?
Hudson’s
response: That is correct. John Fagan, the man I worked with taught him how to
do the analysis, and John Hageland, who ran for
president, he is the one who introduced it to the Maharishi and told him about
it.
Question:
Two quick questions, one you talked about it produces white, have you tried to
take a spectrum of the light that is produced by it and the other question, do
you have any idea about what type ...what makes this material a different form
of matter, other that this orbital rearrangement, does it like make it go
partially out of the physical universe where it is a different dimensional
order, different type of material, than anything else we have seen?
Hudson’s
response: When it is in a perfect superconducting state you can't see it, it is
invisible. But that doesn't mean that it isn't there. It means that it has no
chemical bonds, and no crystalline structure. And literally when it is in a
perfect superconducting state it excludes all magnetic fields, including those
frequencies that you see with. And so it is there, you just can't see it.
You asked if space, yes, it has a
specific frequency in the near infra red spectra, right before it begins to superconduct. When it is superconducting it is not
measurable. It actually emits a wave that is the equivalent of a Plankian wave length which is so short that no one has ever
been able to get close to it. It is the singularity, it is the creation, it is
the uterus of matter, it is where the zero point, the no point, the infinity
and literally, the atom, the spinning atom has this electron and this positron
ready to pair right before it begins to superconduct,
and still we can measure it right before it goes into the superconducting
state, but once it is in it there is no instrumentation that we are aware of
that can determine anything about it.
Question: I
need to understand this a little bit further. Ah, each patient has benefited
so, you have made the choice to share this with the whole planet and not hold
it back just to the elite. Correct?
Hudson’s
response: I elected to work with rhodium and iridium because it is natural to
the body and to add additional amounts to increase the light within the body
and apparently the HIV infected virus is going away.
Question:
You have chosen to give this manna to the people of the world freely, that is
my question.
Hudson’s
response: We have chosen to give the rhodium and iridium, as to the gold, no.
Question:
If anyone can take this does this mean that their
Hudson’s
response: That is a very interesting question and what you are saying is,
"Does it purify the mind as well as the body?" Apparently it does not
affect the mind. Remember there is an Anti Christ, there is one who presents
himself and does all the right things and becomes like Christ, but then uses
his gift for his own self betterment and his own progression and so, I don't
believe that there is any purification of the mind that occurs when it is
taken.
That is
what I have a great degree of apprehension about; who the first person will be.
People say, "How come you haven't taken it? Well, you know, it is a very
big step. We are just tip toeing into it. Talk about seriousness of this. We
are literally working with the essence of life. The essence of who you are. And
so we are working with milligram amounts of it right now and 2 milligrams a day
cures AIDS so what is 250 mg a day going to do? And that is the amount that
they talk about. They actually talk in grains, and how much the grains would
weight. Approximately 250 mg is what they are saying and we will work our way
up to that level. And see what happens.
Question:
All right. Years ago I read about some people in Switzerland and England that
were called breatharians, and they didn't eat any
food and some of them didn't even drink water. And, they lived comfortably even
with in a naked condition in Switzerland in extreme cold. Now where were they
getting their energy, and I understand that they had a purified body before
they could do this. They had to go through vegetarianism and purify their body
before they were able to do this? How do you explain this situation?
Hudson’s
response: I never heard of them and I don't explain it. I have no knowledge of
it and so I can't explain something that I am not aware of it. You can explain
it if you are aware of it. I can't.
Questioner:
We had one of those speak here about ten years ago at our conference, a breatharian.
Hudson:
Another question coming up?
Question:
Some years ago when we went to India in New Delhi we were kind of looking at
the Ayurvedic medicine and we were with a fellow who was head of the whole
organization in New Delhi and he sent us out to a place to look at how they
made their medicines, and if I recall correctly they were telling us that they
fired the gold 120 times. Does this have anything to do? That is what they put
into their medicines, the Ayurvedic medicine. Is this anything close to what
you are talking about?
Hudson’s
response: Yes, mam. The gold, in fact, is the most noble of all elements. When
it is in the monotomic state it is the most difficult
to get out of it. Okay. Gold is the most sensitive of the elements. It is very
delicate and so you know, I don't know what they do, but I have read their
literature and I have read their books and. apparently they don't know how to
do this today.
Now they
will tell you that they do, but most of the people who work with mercury, which
is not in my patent, and is one of the elements that will do this. Mercury will
form a high spin atom also, but that form of mercury is not poisonous. If you
talk to and inquire about the Ayurvedic medicine men over in India most of them
have died with their teeth falling out and their hair falling out which is
indicative of mercury poisoning, and so the Maharishi Yogi said that they don't
have it and was extremely interested in this and for those of you who respect
him, I will tell you what he said.
Question:
There is a group in Los Angeles that are producing a product called protogold, does that have any relationship to what you have
been doing?
Hudson’s response:
I have no idea. I apologize, there are probably a lot of things that you people
will be aware of that I a not. My work is totally private. I paid for all my
work and this is the first time I have ever been out to speak. There is
probably a lot of things going on in this world that I am not aware of. I have
met a tremendous number of people here and stayed up all last night reading a
paper that verbatim describes the changes that are going to occur. They didn't
know when it was coming or who was going to bring it. I am impressed by the
insight that some of this people have in this group. I tell you that it is
unbelievable.
Question:
This is definitely very exciting and the whole issue and the implications of
this is just overwhelming, but is there also a
technical aspect and benefit. It seems that this opens the door to lighting and
the energy and there is a whole other side and arena of this that you haven't
mentioned.
Hudson’s
response: It is a room temperature superconductor for one. It literally flows
light in response to the earth's magnetic field. I can put a ring in your back
yard that literally will begin to flow light in response to the magnetic fields
in your back yard. Then with the Josephson Junction, which is a known
technology you can literally pump that energy out continuously. It is free
energy. And it is running on the earth's magnetic field. You want to levitate,
you want anti-gravity, all you have got to do is put it in grids around a
vehicle and energize it and literally it will lift up and move, anywhere you
want to go with it. Tell me, the technology, the implications of this are
tremendous. I mean, it is new stuff.
Questioner
said that she “thought that all the time.”
Question:
In the alchemical test, you know they speak of alchemists or UFOs working on
the etheric or spiritual level and also on the
physical level. Have you ever tested it to see if you could actually convert
lead to gold?
Hudson’s
response: Well, there you go back into the ancient literature and there have
been these people here on earth and there are people who have achieved this
state here on earth and it goes on and I am taking it that they are moving on
to something similar to this. I don't know. They obviously are not mad at us.
They obviously tolerate us and they are watching us. We obviously have an
interest to them and, you know. I don't give them any trouble and I hope they
don't bother me.
Yes, mam.
(Unintelligible
question.)
Hudson’s
response: Because there is no voltage in the superconductor, really it is more
proper to think of the energy as being in the field, not literally like
electricity, it is in the conductor itself, it literally is in the field
itself. I think your other question is more medical and I think I would rather
wait until tomorrow to discuss this.
Yes, sir.
Question:
Have you any connection with this as to how plants pick up thoughts.
Hudson’s
response: You know, the material is in the plants and you can say that it is
the light of life and you know that the plants are alive also. What you begin
to realize is that there is no time or space in the zero point and what they
are running on and what you are running on are one and the same thing. This is
the connection that radionics and prayer and your
thoughts about that plant are connected and so, yeah, I don't think that there
is any question, you can affect this material in that plant by thinking about
things about that poor plant. You know, I also think that you can think bad
things about people, and it also affects those people. Now this is like
witchcraft, you think good things about something and it affects it. You know,
standard medicine, even medical doctors know that people do better recovering
in the hospital when people come to see them and when people care about them.
When nobody comes, they seem to do worse and the medical doctors can't tell you
why they do better, but they know that people do better when people come to
visit with them. So science is beginning to acknowledge that there is a
connection between people. They don't know what it is but they know that there
is a physics explanation for it that we are very rapidly approaching and I
think that it is through the zero point.
Question:
There was a point in history when we had alchemists who were doing things with
gold. What do the modern alchemists do?
Hudson’s
response: Well, this is also in Scientific American and you can look for the
reference, apparently I have handed it out. There is a reference in Scientific
American approximately two and one half years ago and I will go home and get my
copy and let you know, but the asymmetrically deformed high spin nuclei have
been observed to be gamma emitters without fission. And the nuclear physicists
say, "We don't understand it. It is not what we thought was going on in
the nucleus, but it emits gamma level radiation."
We heat
this material up to about 800 degrees and it emits radiation of extremely short
wave lengths and I presume that it is the gamma emission. Okay. If that is so,
what does it take to convert lead into gold? Gamma radiation. What does it take
to convert mercury into gold? Gamma radiation. So if that is so, then, yes,
lead or mercury that is heated with this white powder will change mercury or
lead into gold.
Question:
Are you familiar with Walter (unintelligible)?
Hudson:
Well, to some degree.
Question:
Do you have any ideas about transmutation, you know photosynthesis.
(Unintelligible)?
Hudson’s
response: Well, there is no question that when the superconducting field is
applied to matter, that all rules change. All the rules of physics that we
thought were so pertinent. Because when the superconductor is present all of
the atoms in there begin to respond to the field and so fusion or fission does
not require near the potentials when it is done under the influence of a
superconducting field. The
superconducting field is the same energy as the bosonic field of the nucleus,
and so when the whole material is enveloped in the superconductivity field the
rigidity... well, for instance a nucleus that is in a superconductor when it is
superconducting, you no longer have electrons, everything is just bosonic light
and there is no resistance in the nucleus to this light. And so literally you
have energy going in and out of the nucleus freely flowing in and out of the
nucleus while it is in the superconductor. And you stop the superconductivity
and there are nuclei that will have too much charge in them because these light
particles got caught in the nucleus at the time it went normal. So immediately
you experience gamma radiation as this excess energy is ejected out of the
nucleus. Okay, and that is why Ponds and Fleischman are observing a certain
amount of gamma level radiation and they think, "Where is this coming
from?" Well, it literally is the residuum left over.
So it is
not a good idea to have a superconductor and have it going in and out of the
superconducting state because you get all these things happening that shouldn't
be happening there. Literally when you get into a superconducting state, it is
not a high amount of energy involved and you need to understand that. That a
perturbation of that field can cause a flux collapse. So that anything at all
that begins to cause interference, whether it is nitrogen oxide in the air or
whatever; and things begin to get a little hairy.
Like some
of these people feel that there are UFOs and some of the metal is falling off
of and all. Well, it is in the atmosphere that that happens. Once you are out in
space you don't have to worry about that, but it is a perturbation of the
magnetic field which is a tremendous amount of energy flowing and a tremendous
size of a field with the least little bit of excitation potential, but you let
air or other gases get involved in the perturbation of that field and unharmonicity started and it can cause a flux collapse and
that cannot function any more. So it would be a technical problem to administer
in practical applications.
Yes, sir.
(Unintelligible
question.)
Hudson’s
response: No, I haven't but it is in the same literature that I have researched
and they have chemistries and all, themselves, when they are handled property,
but apparently the noble gases are over on the far right side of the periodic
table and you would expect them to not be high spin state so you wouldn't
expect them to be superconductors either.
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s
response: I would expect that the noble gases... there would be windows,
electromagnetic windows as the gases are in a condensed state, it would have
electromagnetic windows where actually the energy does this... you know, going
around this atom and going around this atom. And that would have windows in
time but you should not be able to build a continuum of windows very easily, it
should be an engineering problem.
Yes...
Question:
Biological transmutation... with some of the information that we have heard
from various books.
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s
response: There is the lightest element... the other elements that are capable
of doing this but if you try to take them out of solution or out of the matrix,
they go back to metals, are cobalt, nickel and copper. Okay.
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s
response: Not that goes into a high spin state. Okay. Yes....
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s response:
Yes, mercury, I can make monoatomic mercury for you. We did not file for it in
our patents because we didn't know it at the time that we filed in 1988. Since
that time, I have learned that it also platinum through mercury region... so,
yes, it definitely is one of the elements, but it is not in my patent
application...
(All of the
questions that were asked were unintelligible and only the answers given by Mr.
Hudson could be heard clearly on the tape)
Hudson’s
response: Yes, the elements
samarium through dysprosium go into this state and yes, in the making of
the magnet there could be some superconductivity itself, I am not aware that it
has ever been confirmed to be superconducting but it would certainly be a
possibility that there could be areas of superconductivity. You know, most
people would never experience superconductivity and would never have a reason
to care, you know, and it took us forever to figure out what was going on here.
When it was
first observed, it will literally drive you crazy; you begin to question your
sanity. And you will say, "This can't be. It just can't be." And we
had to get more sophisticated and more sophisticated equipment to keep tighter
controls and eliminate more variables from it and we got to the point where
there were no other variables, it is still doing it, and at that point we found
that there must be a reason.
This is
real. It is a real phenomenon. And we have to find out why. That is why I began
the literature search and found all this stuff and fortunately it was happening
in science at a time when I needed it and so we now know why.
We now know
that it is a nuclear change. We now know that these elements are there and that
they can fission. And you say, "Dave I am going to take it for analysis,
and you take it to someone that does DC arc spectroscopy and I guarantee you
that you will wind up with the biggest bunch of crud being produced and he is
going to have a tremendous background reading and it is the radiation coming
out of it. It is everywhere and if you put it on a field it looks like somebody
can mow the lawn, it is just literally spectra everywhere. In fact, when I was
at Allied Signal they said, "You know, we measured the emission
spectroscopy of a superconductor when it is superconducting, and do you know
what it is? I said, "Yeah, it is everything. And the man hesitated and
said, "How did you know that?"
It
literally is everything. There is no finite spectra. It is just like it is
everything. It is a tremendous background of spectra. All over the film and it
sits there, sits there, and sits there until it goes normal and everything
collapses and out of it raises these spectrum peaks, but as long as it is in
the elemental form it is just garbage, there is no reality here at all. No, it
is everything. There is everything going on in the energy reacting between the
superconductors, the fissioning of nuclei, you know
just garbage being produced all over. I mean it just... everything is going on.
In a DC arc, you name it and it is happening and so that is why you have
spectra everywhere; there is nothing particular happening.
Garbled
question: Someone has stated that the human frequency is around… they were
trying to hit ...couldn't understand why...
Hudson’s
response: There are some things that need to be understood that 1 didn't talk
about. First of all, superconductivity is light, but light travels... this
particular light travels the speed of sound. That might be interesting to some
of you. That literally the light travels with the speed of sound. It doesn't
travel with the speed of light.
It is
basically the speed that sound travels through air, this is the speed that
light moves in your body. So...
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s
response: Yeah, basically it is standard atmosphere, the speed that you holler
and you hear somebody, that hesitation is basically the same speed that this is
moving in your body. You touch something and it takes a second for it to go to
your brain and your brain to come back and say, "Get your finger off of
it."
(Unintelligible
question)
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s response:
Because it is what the nerves are made out of. It is the light, and when the
pain is experienced it has to travel up here and it has to come back and tell
the muscle to get the hand off the hot stove. Well, that sequence of events
actually travels by a liquid light of superconductivity. So, we are into the
medical and we won't talk about that.
(Unintelligible
question)
Hudson’s
response: Yes, it is...it actually is in the myelin sheath and that is where
you will find it.
Question:
What about the internal combustion engine (unintelligible)
Hudson’s
response: What do I think about the conspiracy theory? I don't subscribe to a
conspiracy theory like most people here right now. I believe that there are a
bunch of very power hungry people out there and I think if you were in their
position you would feel the same way. Most people... when you get up there and
you live money and you work money, you are out to make all the money that you
can. I don't think there is a conspiracy. I don't think that a group of people
get together and say, "Let's do it to the general public." But I do
believe that it is a concerted effort on the part of all these people to, yes,
to keep us on this material. It is a cheap material and it is available
relatively cheap and they can sell it for an elevated price (maybe they are
referring to petroleum products in the question) and this is a profit and that
is what they are in business for.
I do not believe that there is any question that there is
something better coming and it is there and, you know, fuel cells are an
excellent way to go. It is an interim plug-in to get us on through this thing
but I just thought this group would be interested to know about what it does to
your body also. Let's just don't stop with metals and catalysts, in the form
that it is naturally, and that now is something to the body, so, you know. What
do I think about... I think the rest of it basically is a medical issue and I
think that we can talk about that tomorrow, about the changes that are going on
in our body and what it means and where were are going and how we are going to
end up eventually. I think that we will talk about that tomorrow and that will
leave something for these guys tomorrow.
Question: You mentioned the name of the book that has something
to do with physics.
Hudson’s response: Oh, Zachariah Sitchin. Are you not
familiar with Sitchin? Zachariah Sitchin. Okay. He has four books out. Oh, six
is it now. All right the one that we are interested in is the... not the one
that deals with UFOs. Genesis Revisited. Thank you. The one you want to see is
Genesis Revisited by Zachariah Sitchin. It is in paperback and I think that it
is about $5.50 or something like that. And he is the one that talks about the
Adam Kadmon and he talks about the stories of the creation of the first man by
the immortals and this all information that was recorded on those plates or
tablets that they dug up and are translating now. It came out of the area of
Iraq.
They were the priests in their own time frame and this was
found in those mounds of dirt where those ancient civilizations were and there
is one huge library that when they uncovered it. Had thousands and thousands of
these little clay tablets all inscribed with information and they are just now
getting around to translating these and Sitchin has been involved in those
translations. I don't read it for his speculations, and his conclusions. I read
it for the facts and he does explain when it is facts and when he is theorizing
and I read it for the facts and let the theory go in and out.
To be in a little paperback, he has a tremendous amount of
information in there that is coming from the translation of those tablets and
it is literally an approximate translation of what is in those tablets and if
you can get it for $5.00 this is a.... that one specifically talks about the
Ben Ben stone they call it, which is the stone of
regeneration in ancient Egypt and the travel of Joseph and Mary to the site of
regeneration. The death and re-ascension associated with the Phoenix bird and
it goes into quite a little bit about it and I think you will find it
enlightening.
It also
talks about the first man and how they were mining gold and got tired of mining
gold themselves and so they actually took a being that existed here on earth
and wasn't smart enough to mine the gold and they crossed their genes with his
and created the first man and they kept this man in an area called Edin. Okay. And finally they got to the point where they
created a female and now they could procreate themselves and perpetuate the
species and at that point they had more work than they knew what to do with so
they began to let them go and they came out of Edin,
and, you know it is disturbing because it is exactly the story that the Hebrews
tell except this is way before the Hebrews version was given. The stories of
how the Gods, anyway it makes excellent reading. Yes. I have the book, the Keys
of Enoch,
Yes.
Question: I am asking him now about the book, the Keys of
Enoch.
Hudson’s response: Yeah, I met J. J. Hurtak
in Sedona one time. And just after meeting me he asked me to come with him
where he was speaking that day. He was quite a well-to-do man, with a big
house, and he actually opened the meeting with a prayer and said a few things
to them like ten minutes and then turned the meeting over to me. I had no idea
that this would happen. He introduced me as the man who held the keys to the
light body and this is his opinion. If you read his book, on Page 496 and Page
497, okay verbatim describes the asymmetric deformed nucleus, he talks about
the electron orbital rearrangement, he talks about room temperature
superconductors, he talks about low flying vehicles, spacecraft, he also talks
about... anyway, how he knew this in 1973 when this stuff did not come out
until the late 80s, you know, it is...
(Unintelligible question)
The man who what... the man who held the keys to the light
body.
(Unintelligible)
Hudson’s response: I don't think so. You have to understand that
when I realized that I was dealing with alchemy and Enoch was the father of
alchemy, you know, he is called Enoch to the Hebrews, anything that had Enoch's
name on it I was looking at. I found this book and I say, "This isn't an
old book ...this is a new book." But it is to my knowledge, I haven't
found any glaring errors in the book. Now the problem is that people worshiped
the deliverer of the message, J. J. Hurtak and all he
has to offer is this book. He is the telephone and this is the telephone message.
Read the message, but what you do with J. J. Hurtak
is up to you.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: Yes... No, when it is highly purified in
air, okay, and I haven't got it in a sealed vacuum container, but in air it...
under 60 or 80 power magnification, it still looks like flour.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: That is the way that you take it.
(All of the questions are unintelligible and I am only
transcribing the answers which do not follow a reasonable order or content.)
Hudson’s response: I have never had it controlled accurately, I can tell you
that it increases in volume when it goes from metal to the state, because it
goes from two and one half angstroms to like six and seven in two dimensional
coupling so it is like eight to ten times the volume, in fact, its specific
gravity is 2.5, not 18 like it is in the metal. So you can... people
look at it and say, "This isn't gold. I know gold. This isn't gold."
Well, it is gold, it is just another form of gold.
(Unintelligible question)
Yes, I am not sure how you got into all of this....
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: I like to think so, yes. Yes, I think I
am. That is what my banker says too. Were you in my other talk. They say it was
my analysis of soils and plant tissues and all that got me interested in this.
It was natural materials. Yes.
Question: Ancient alchemists manufactured this or something
very similar to this. What technology did they have back in their days...?
Hudson’s response: Well, let me just tell you that the
procedure that I use involves one acid and salt. And that is not something that
the ancients could not have had. And time. It just takes time. You have to get
it going and you can't just sit there with your mouth hanging open waiting for
it to come about. Get on with the other work and do everything else and just
let that run and they have called it fermentation, coagulation, sublimation,
and you know, all of this. Well, it is mainly just time, you are talking about
the spin state of a nucleus and to go from a low spin state to a high spin
state takes time. Now fortunately if you start with nature, the natural sources
of the monoatomic gold, it is in the monoatomic state to begin with, and so, if
you are willing to take that out and work with that, I consider that much more
rapidly, but if you want to take yellow metal to white powder gold it takes
time, there is no shortcut. Mother Nature had hundreds of millions of years to
do it so she...
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: It never quits emitting gamma radiation.
And so... l have no reason to disbelieve at this time. I think that would be a
more appropriate correct answer.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: There is Fulcanelli who wrote and who was
quite well known, but I think that it was Schwaller de Lubicz. I think
Fulcanelli was his student and he was the one who wrote about it and talked
about it but the man who understood it was de Lubicz. That is my personal
opinion. I have read him and I think he knew. I don't think that he ever had
the material but he is so clear. He understood. It is...
(Unintelligible question)
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: You know, what kind of fuel cell it is?
It is an alkaline fuel cell isn't it? It is aluminum so it would be an alkaline
fuel cell, okay.
Question: He hopes that he would be able to get this to the
public before he dies. So far, he... but they won't accept it. No one would
come near it so…
Hudson’s response: Have you actually seen this fuel cell
operate? Well, it is my understanding that the alkaline fuel cell does not have
to have noble elements. But it is my understanding that this technology only
works for a very short period of time and then the catalyst dies. Okay, we can
get thirty years with no diminution of performance. We have as much as he has.
I can build you one fuel cell and that is all that he can do. That is the
drawback and I know that this is the position of industry on it. At this time,
yes, they do perform relatively well under an alkaline condition. There is
molten carbonate.
Question: He mentioned that they can use this aluminum
container as part of the fuel cell. Therefore...
Hudson’s response: It sounds interesting if what you say is
true, I just at this time, I am not personally in a position where I can tell
you that I think that this is possible. I don't believe that they have done
this and I would have serious questions if it functions for a few days and it
died.
I would contact the company down in Florida that has built
the fuel cell powered car and I would get in touch with them. There is a
company down there called Energy Partners.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: Yes sir. The paper I read last night. Oh,
I think that woman is going to rewrite it taking out all personal information
and making it available and so you will have it in the near future. It is this
lady over here in the glasses and she may let you read it.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: Before 1999. That soon. Anything else.
Should we knock it off and let's get out of here.
Okay. Thank you.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s
response: Orientational energy in the nucleus puts it
in this state and so, you know, elements have been found that no standard
laboratory can tell them what it is. 1 would like to have some of the material
to do an analysis on myself. I would suspect that the properties that they are
describing have the very same properties that my material has and so I believe
that if I had those I, could come up with...
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: I am just... l don't know about 115. I am
just saying that the gentleman that had the material, over in Europe, the Billy
Meyers, I have heard what it has been analyzed as, I heard what happened to the
materials. You know, osmium is so reactive that it oxidizes on the table and
that is hard for most people to understand but literally osmium is reactive and
ruthenium is almost as reactive. The thing to understand is that the materials
are so reactive in their elemental state they literally react with moisture and
air and are lost. When they react with themselves they are so strongly bound
that you can't get them apart, that is why they are considered normal, but when
they are apart and divided they are explosively reactive and you could get hurt
working with these elements because of their reactivity.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: I am not going to have a newsletter. My
mailing address I can give you.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: Ask him, who made the coffee, where is
he. It does arrange itself in a two-dimensional structure. You can get an alignment
and you can see that there is pattern alignment, but there is no
absorption-emission spectra to quantitatively say what is there. There is no
line spectra. This is what he copied right here... It is my understanding that
is my reference list and he copied it.
My mailing address is Route 2, Box 970, Levine, Arizona
85339. Okay, Area Code
(End of Tape)
Tape A.
May 3, Easter Day, and we are going to talk about the physics
of superconductors, we have got a couple more corning in, the special state of
matter that we have discovered and are working with, and try to give you some
understanding of the way the atoms react with each other. The nature of
superconductivity, how it relates to the high temperature superconductors made
today. You have read so much about the Percovite
superconductors and also we will get into and are interested in cold fusion.
What cold fusion actually is which is not known, and...
Yes, I will give them this.
Okay. A
couple more tickets. Thank you. Basically, what I will be doing here is giving
references and what I want you to understand. You can argue with the
references, don't argue with me. My work in actuality. There is no new
discovery here. It is something that has been known. Every aspect of it is in
the literature. No one has ever put it all together that
One of the best things to read about is an article in Scientific American, it was in March
1990, the article is called New Radioactivities. Okay. March, 1990, Scientific American and I do have one
copy that I can show everyone. The basically… this gives you the basic
background of what we are talking about.
Okay. What happened in the physics community is that about
1985 it was observed that literally some elements were observed to fragment or
to fission into other elements and it was just strictly spontaneous. With no
explanation for why this happened. Scientists observed it and they said that it
was really wild. You know that we don't have a radioactive isotope. We
literally have an element sitting here and all of a sudden, bang, it is two or
three other elements. Now this was new, to the physics community. They assumed
that an element had to be radioactive; it had to be in this agitated state
before the nucleus could fission. It was observed that these elements would
fission. First one element they observed and then two and then three, and
literally by sitting and watching these atoms, thousands of them, they would
observe these spontaneous fragmentations.
Now, this flies in the face of the stability of the nucleus
that we have been told how stable nuclei are. The first elements that were
observed were the actinide group, and the actinide group were those lay people.
It is those heavy elements, from Francium and heavier, these are the big atoms
up there where uranium is and their nuclei are big, heavy cumbersome, lots of
protons and lots of neutrons.
And so the first theory was that came up, and it was incorrect,
was the first one put forward, is that it was these big, heavy, cumbersome
nuclei that were just not very stable, but right after this, within two years
it was observed that some of the rare earths would do this. Now this was very
exciting because these are really kind of intermediate level elements. They are
not that heavy they actually occur in the Periodic Table between the light
platinum element and the heavy platinum elements. Okay.
And by the light platinums, I mean
ruthenium, rhodium, and palladium. And the heavy elements are iridium,
platinum, osmium. And so the elements that were observed to spontaneously
fragment were samarium through dysprosium which are at
the center of the periodic table.
And so, through trial and error, there were a lot of
conferences held worldwide, there were all sorts of names that were discussed
in the physics community and they were kicking around a terminology called cold
fragmentation, cold fission, all sorts of names,
trying to come up with something that felt right. Generally, right now, the
consensus is that they are going to call it, you know, cold fragmentation. That
is kind of the terminology that everyone is going to.
What they found is that it had to do with the structure of
the atom itself. That it was the nature of the nucleus configuration that was
causing this fragmentation, that literally a nucleus could reconfigure itself
into an unstable state, and pop apart. It was literally wrenching its own self
apart.
Now, the
important thing to understand that this was never observed from a metallic
substance, it was always observed from an element. Okay. Now, what they found
is that the nucleus is made up of proton and neutrons that actually are
referred to as proton and neutron orbitals. Now we are talking about the
nucleus. Not the electron or the outside, but the nucleus which has protons and
neutrons, but they actually refer to these as proton orbitals and neutron
orbitals in the nucleus.
That is real hard for most of us to understand. We though
that was a little, bitty, tiny nucleus, and how can it have orbitals. It has
harmonic orbitals, just like the electron harmonic orbital.
And I hated chemistry and physics when I was in high school,
but you remember the two, eight, sixteen, thirty two, that sequence. Well, the
nucleus fills in just the same way, okay. The elements when
they first begin, you have hydrogen, and helium, and that orbital is filled
with just two electrons. Then you move to the next row. Here is hydrogen
and here is helium and on the other corner, and it is a fit, there is no more.
The next row has eight elements in it. And they being filling its electron
orbital and it fills up as you go across the periodic table.
Well what happens is that the elements when you get up to
the third and fourth row, the elements are filling their protons and neutron
orbitals and when they get about half way across the periodic table, you are in
what is called the transition elements. You are in the middle of the periodic
table. They can't decide whether they want to be electropositive, they can't
decide whether they want to be electronegative, they are just kind of here in
no man's land. Kind of wishy washy.
They haven't made up their mind where they want to be.
And what happens is that the nucleus is quite finicky. All
of the filled orbitals that are previously filled isolate themselves from the
unfilled orbitals and so here this sequence is about half filled or half empty
depending on how you want to look at it and the filled orbitals say, "You
guys are not filled. You protons and neutrons get out of here. You are not
wanted here with us completed people. The completed protons and neutrons."
And so what happens is that they are pushed off and away from the nucleus. And
so this whole concept of a spherical nucleus doesn't apply now. What we end up
with is a nucleus that actually looks more like a bowling pin or a figure 8 so
to speak, like this, as opposed to a spherical nucleus. So you have all your
filled protons and neutrons here and your unfilled ones are pushed away.
Now you only observe this when you
have a monoatom. If you have a chemical bond, a diatom, or trimer, or a larger cluster of whatever size, there is
something called dipole, dipole resonance that sets between the two atoms and
stabilizes them. It is kind of a concept of a two cylinder motor. Or a three
cylinder motor or a four or a five cylinder, literally there are inherent
vibrations in the three cylinder and the five cylinder
that you won't find in a four cylinder or a two cylinder. But the roughest
running motor of all is a one cylinder, and that poor one cylinder does not
have any compensation. It doesn't have a harmonic balance or what they call it
in automotive and so the thing just goes to bouncing and bouncing and bouncing.
Okay.
This so the
monoatom is there, if one of the elements on the left
side of the periodic table are basically harmonic and it stays fairly
spherical, the standard deformation is 1.3 to 1. Okay, it is almost spherical,
kind of oval shaped. If it is on the very right hand side of the periodic table
where its sequences are basically complete, it is basically spherical, but
right in the middle, now, we find that this asymmetrically deformed nucleus forms,
if it is a monoatom. So the criteria
is that it must be a monoatom, and this is
when over time the nucleus will deform itself.
Now the thing to understand about this is that these
elements in the middle of the periodic table are just a few in the third row.
It is more in the fourth row, and it gets wider in the fifth row. There are
actually more elements in that fifth row down because the nucleus is fatter, it
is more easily deformed.
Now some of the things that the physicists have observed is
you are normally taught in high school and college that it takes
a million electrons volts to knock a proton off a nucleus. That is an
approximate number. Putting on the element is basically a little different, but
it is basically a million electron volts. When you have a superdeformed nucleus
which means twice as long as it is wide, and the word is superdeformed and now
they call this, they make up their own language, and they have chosen the word
superdeformed when it is twice as long as it is wide, you actually can knock
off a proton with less than 10 electron volts. Because what is happening is
that the protons and the neutrons are held together by something called the
strong force. Remember that from physics class.
The strong force works only on very short distances. It is
not a long range thing and what happens is that when this nucleus becomes
deformed, the strong force is no longer that strong between the deformed
particles and the spherical particles and so this figure 8, this particles are
out here a distance from the other and they are no longer bound tightly. When
they are uptight it takes a million electron volts, but when they are out here
like this it takes less than 10 electron volts to knock a proton off.
Now the implications to this are quite serious, because
literally you can strike an arc on this material and it begins to fission. And
what do you get, you get iron, silica, aluminum, calcium, all of the ordinary
junk that is everywhere in the universe. Okay, so you take it for analysis to
someone who does standard analysis and they burn it and they see all this crud.
But the crud wasn't there before they struck the arc. Now this is very serious
material. These are nuclei that are not stable and yet they are non
radioactive. Now the implication is...
Why aren't they radioactive? Because they are stable, they
are in a neutral state themselves and are stable. With any small external
potential they fragment. And when they fragment there is no gamma, no beta, and
no alpha radiation. They are just heat, tremendous heat that emits from it.
(Question that is unintelligible.)
No, but I am but there has been a lot of papers written on
the similarity between the radioactive state, which literally when it is
radioactive, it has too many neutrons, too many protons, and when it is in this
excited state it becomes deformed, right before it fragments, and so the
analogy is that you have got the equivalent of a radioactive isotope but it is
not radioactive. It is literally about to wrench its own self apart. This really
is unsettling to physicists because this is not what they thought the nucleus
was like.
It only happens to monoatomic elements... That is something
I know and now you now know.
They have never said that specifically. What they have said
is that they have made these elements in linear accelerators and high energy
reactions and the elements have been observed to exist in this state. The state
is a total lower energy state than the spherical nuclei and it doesn't fission.
You know, it just all of a sudden it will come apart, but there is no standard
nuclear degradation to it.
The physicist will admit that there are new rules here and
this is not the way they thought it was. And as long as you have diatoms or larger,
you have never observed this. It has been observed in monoatomic systems is
what you should be aware of. They don't know this, I don't think. I am just
sharing it with you that it is the monoatomic system.
Anyway this article basically talks about the actinide group
and what they have observed. It explains the electron structures within the
nucleus, it explains the deformation and actually shows you a little diagram
here of uranium, which is one of the actinide group as a spherical nucleus,
okay, showing white and dark and then there is an arc in color and it shows how
the nucleus deforms, okay, just like a figure 8, it looks like a bowling pin,
and then how it spontaneously breaks into two other elements and there is no
alpha, beta, or gamma radiation. Just heat. Tremendous heat from the nucleus because there is less total energy
in the two elements that are formed afterwards than there was in the one big
element before. And so when this happens heat evolves,
nuclear level heat. Okay. Anyway this is Scientific
American magazine for the skeptic.
Okay, once again, 1 repeat for the fourth time, March 1990.
The article is called New Radioactivities. Okay.
This, the Scientific
American article is not as early as this was discovered, it is only
recently in 1990 that they published it but it was actually discovered about
1986. Within about three or four years after this they had the rare earths and
as I told you they found that samarium through dysprosium did this.
Now if you look at the periodic table, immediately above
samarium through dysprosium is the light platinum group elements. These
elements are ruthenium, rhodium, palladium and silver and silver is a platinum
group element, but it is a noble element and immediately below the rare earth
group that does this is osmium, iridium, platinum and gold.
And so, what they said is if the: rare earths will do this,
then we would expect the platinum group above and the platinum group below to
do the very same thing.
Well, fortunately I had already filed my patent. I had those
filed before even the cold fusion was announced to the public.
Anyway the
people with the... at the national labs began working on the formation of these
precious elements as monoatoms. Now they don't come
out in their papers and tell you that it is a monoatom.
They tell you they made the atom which implies a monoatom
by fragmenting heavier elements to these elements; but as a non radioactive
isotope. And they found that they went to and remained in the high spin state.
Okay. If you take two high spin atoms and physically bring them together they
will begin to dipole-dipole inter-react and this superdeformed nucleus will
inter-react and come back to a spherical state; and energy is coming off of it
all the time that it is doing this. In fact, it actually gives energy off going
both ways. So it is like fusion and fission, you get energy both ways. But this
energy comes out of it and it literally goes to the low spin state. It spin flips back to the low spin state and is in this normal
metallic state.
Now the transition from the low spin state to the high spin
state is what no physical chemist had ever done before then. No one has ever
been able to take the diamond and hand them the pure carbon.
And I use that analogy because everyone understands that
diamond and carbon are the same element. Correct. The diamond is the high
energy crystalline form of carbon. If you look at this diamond and you look at
this black, sooty carbon, it is hard to believe that they are indeed the same
element. But they are. One is a high energy crystalline form of the amorphous
material. Gold, the yellow metal of gold is the high-energy crystalline form of
the element gold. The element of gold is the snow white powder.
Now, this article in Scientific
American does not go into the elements that are involved in my patent. You
will find these elements and I have some of the papers with me in Physical Review C, Vol. 39, No. 3, March
1989, they are talking about super symmetry classification of nuclear
levels and all odd-mass platinum isotopes.
When you read this paper it is a physics paper but what they
are talking about is the odd mass nuclei that they possess this property called
supersymmetry. It says that the theoretical
interpretation of the negative polarity structures of the odd mass platinum
isotopes in the framework of conventional models of power particles and
collective motion has met with serious difficulty. Because of
the transition region between strongly deformed and spherical nuclei.
Okay.
Once again, strongly deformed nuclei is
what they are talking about. The nuclear shape and core motion are not well
defined. Moreover the unpaired neutrons can occupy three energetically quasi
spaced single particle orbits and it goes on to describe those orbits. So what
they are saying is that they are superdeformed also.
And, another paper in Physical
Review C, Vol. 41, No.4, dated April 1990, this is Quantum Size Effects and Rapidly Rotating Nuclei, another paper,
Physical Review C, Vol. 41, No. 4, entitled, Inertias of Super Deformed Bands, which actually gets into the
physics of the nuclei when it is in its superdeformed state. April 1990.
Specifically, to my work now, and these are just
introduction papers, Physical Review C,
and the reason I cite Physical Review C
is that this basically in all good libraries and it is one of the better
publications in physics.
Physical Review C, Vol. 38, No. 2, August 1988. The title of
this one is Superdeformation in Palladium
104 and 105. This is as specific as you get. Superdeformation if it is a
superdeformed nucleus. The superdeformed means twice as long as it is wide.
Okay.
It meets all the criteria that was just discussed in the
Scientific American article about superdeformation
and spontaneous fragmentation and how low a potential it takes.
Next
article, "Possible discontinuity in
the octupole behavior in the platinum through mercury region", okay.
It is Physical Review C, Vol. 39, No. 3, March 1989. And to read part of it;
"Apart from the well deformed rare earth and heavy actinide nuclei (which
I just told you about) which would not be expected to conform to the parametization of this theory", they found that the
neutron in the platinum region with Z particles which means proton numbers 78
through 82 and neutron numbers 108 through 126 were also anomalous. And one
other quote I would like for you to hear is “a discontinuity of this magnitude
is not observed in any other part of the periodic table”. In other words the
deformation that they found in platinum through mercury, do you know what the
other element is between platinum and mercury? Gold. Platinum, gold, mercury on
the periodic table.
Why they don't use the word gold, I don't know. But
platinum, gold and mercury are three of the other elements that do this. And
this paper dated 1989 specifically addresses the nuclear studies that were done
to confirm this deformation because there are no other elements on the periodic
table that were seen to deform this severely.
Okay. Another one, called Structure of Osmium, Platinum Isotopes, Physical Review C, Vol. 38, No.
2, August 1988, and this goes into talking about the rare earth nuclei, and
how deformed they are and how through the osmium through the platinum region,
which is osmium, iridium, and platinum. Okay. So osmium, iridium, and platinum
are the subjects of that paper.
Another paper titled Collective
and Single Particle Structure in Rhodium 103, Rhodium 103 is the stable
isotope rhodium and also palladium 104 and 105 are the two state isotopes of
palladium. We are not talking about radioactive isotopes, we are talking about
the ones in the jewelry you wear, the ones that are in the platinum you
collect. This rhodium 103, the one stable isotope rhodium is 103.
This is not a radioactive isotope. Many people say,
"Are we sure this isn't radioactive?" It goes into a discussion of
the physics, but more importantly, it says in part this is reflected in the
level structure of Z which is the proton numbers of equal to or greater than
41, neutron memory equal or greater than 56, nuclei such as ruthenium,
palladium and silver are found to do this. The reference is Physical Review C, Vol. 37, No. 2,
February 1988.
Okay, the things that we understand is that basically all of
these elements that were previously applied for in our patent, in this unusual,
unstable state, that is, the superdeformation is the
Nuclear Science Division of Lawrence Berkeley Laboratories credibility. The inertia of superdeformed bands is Neils Bohr Institute in
It is important to understand that this is all credible
government, top level stuff. And what they are saying is that the very
elements, the very elements that we discovered exist in this state that no one
knew they existed in. They are now finding that they exist in this state also.
Fortunately, it was after we filed our patent that it was
confirmed. The understanding that these elements can exist in this state, and
it is a new state, it is literally a high spin state. And we were just getting
into what was called nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy and people who
were working with, and this is a procedure where tremendous magnetic fields are
applied to a substance causing the nucleus to spin flip to the high spin state.
The fields that we are talking about are fields in excess of
500,000 gauss, which is immense. I have seen some of these magnets that they
use to do some of this work with. They are all water cooled, you know, because
of the heat that is generated when they energize them is tremendous. But these
people observed that when metal atoms were spin flipped into the high spin
state, that energy freely passed from one atom to the next with no net loss of
energy. Okay. This is important because atoms in the high spin state pass
energy from one high spin atom to the next with no net loss of energy. That is
an extremely important statement to observe in the 60s. It is in the college
text and I thought I had a reference here, but I don't, but you can find it in
the standard college text books on nuclear magnetic resonance spectroscopy.
They talk about it.
Now they understood back in these early days that if we
could ever figure out how to spin flip atoms and hold them in this high spin
state we have a superconductor. A material that literally passes energy from one
atom to the next with no net loss of energy. However, if it takes 500,000 gauss
to do this you can induce energy to flow down the wire with less energy. So
what is the practical significance of it. It has no practical application. It
might be important scientifically, but it is not important practically. But if,
in fact, we had a group of atoms in the high spin state that would stay in the
high spin state with no external magnetic field, then theoretically this should
be a room temperature superconductor.
Now is everybody following this. It is very important and is
the crux of what we are talking about here. Now, the people at Argonne National
Laboratories where I went to get this confirmed for the Unified States Patent
Office said, "Mr. Hudson, we have physicists here who have theorized that
the very elements that you are talking about, per the papers here, should be
room temperature superconductors" with the elements that we filed on, the
eleven elements, they said, "Yes, those are the ones and they should be
but we have only been able to make them one atom at a time in our high energy
accelerators, and so we have never had anyone who could take the diamond and
give us the carbon. We have never been able to get a half a teaspoonful of this
stuff to work with to prove whether or not it is a superconductor." Okay.
I said, "Well, guess what, I have cupfuls of the stuff and it is a
superconductor."
And, of course, this was Roger Poeppel the Head of the
Ceramics and Superconductivity, and he said, "Mr. Hudson, do not talk to
me over the phone about this, do not send me any letters to Argonne National
Laboratories, this place is full of spies everywhere," and he said,
"if you are going to send me anything, wrap it in tinfoil when you put it
in the envelope so that it cannot be x rayed and send it directly to me."
He assisted me in getting the confirmation.
We actually got a MIT chemist, a Ph.D., MIT chemist, who
took the gold and made it into white powder for us and signed the affidavit for
the patent office. Then the patent office decided that we would have to do more
and I just decided that I wasn't going to give it to them, so, me and the
Department of Defense are at odds right now over it and basically it comes down
to their wanting to understand it. The breaking of the metal/metal bonds is the
key and doing that is extremely difficult.
For instance, and I will give you all this as an example and
I hope that I am not getting too technical. Am I over the heads of anybody? I
mean, okay. Well the guys appreciate it, the women maybe not, the guys are all
right. I knew we would get a rise out of you on that. At least they are not
Italian men anyway.
We will
take gold because gold is the element that most people know best, if you say
rhodium or iridium most people say, " I don't
know whether it has a gray oxide or white oxide or what." But gold, most
people feel that they have a knowledge of gold and what it looks like.
Most of you understand what a diatom is, right? Nitrogen N2,
hydrogen H2, oxygen 02, well gold is Au2 okay. You can dissolve gold in aqua
regia. You can boil it for a year and you will never have monoatomic gold. The
best you can ever hope for is Au2Cl6. You will probably end up with something
like Au12Cl36. Okay.
These solutions are yellow to orange depending on the metal
condensation, but it still has metal/metal bonds. Okay. Now I know that you
find this all very interesting. The breaking of that last metal/metal bond in
gold is extremely difficult. Gold is the most noble of all the elements and
gold is not one to give up its partner. It says, "If you want my other
gold you are going to have to fight for it."
We and I am not going to give you all the chemistry. You can
go and play in your laboratory for several years getting it, but there is a way
that you can actually get the gold away from the gold by giving it other metals
that it wants as much as it wants the gold. By acidifying this solution
producing what would be protonated HAuCl4. Okay. So you went to a metal that it
wanted more than its other gold and then a hydrogen in place of the other
metal. And now we have HAuCl4 which is AuC13.AuCl, and it is in a hydrochloric
acid solution. Then you can reduce that out of solution as HAu.
Now it is very important that you understand that this is
not AuH, it is HAu, that
the gold is actually gold minus 1. Now, if you understand that the periodic
table, you understand that gold zero, gold metal, the periodic chart will tell
you that its metallic state is 5D N6 S1. There is no such thing as an S1 state.
Okay. The S wants to go to two electrons or it wants no electrons, but it
doesn't want one electron. It is just the way that it works.
It is like Lithium, Sodium, Potassium. They don't want one S
electron. And they are so reactive that if you put them in water they explode.
Okay. Gold is just like that, it has one S electron in its outer layer and it
doesn't want to be that way. So what you end up is that if you have monoatomic
gold, you can end up with gold plus one or gold minus one. But you can't end up
with gold zero. Does everybody understand this.
You can have diatomic gold which is gold/gold. Two atoms of
gold. And you can have gold plus one, gold minus one, and the net between those
two is gold zero. The two clusters are zero. It is the metal. But in effect,
one atom is plus one and one atom is minus one and the net of the two is zero.
But once you go to one atom, you get only plus one or minus one, but it can't
be zero. Do you follow this?
Okay. So you can have gold plus one, reduced to gold minus
one, and now you have the protonated gold minus one. Now in the same way that
amorphous silicon is produced from selane (?) which is hydrogen silisaw HSi, you anneal away the proton, just heat it. And
when the proton leaves, the nucleus goes to the high spin state.
It literally goes snow white. As the proton leaves. And
there is no other way to get to the high spin state. But once you have it in
the high spin state, it won't go back to metal either. You can take this white
gold and you can heat it to 1160 degrees and it fuses into a transparent glass,
but it never goes back to yellow metal. It literally reaches a nuclear state
that is lower than the metal and there is no way to get back to the metal. You
are down below that point and there is no way to get back there. Oh, there is a
way, but it is tough and it takes about a year's time. Okay.
We did this in our lab, and I wouldn't say that it was
without high power equipment. There is a reason why it cost over five million
dollars, there is a lot of equipment that has been used and bought and
rented... but this material when it is in the metallic state it weighs a gram.
When it is in the hydrogen oride state it weighs a
little over a gram because of the weight of the hydrogen and when it goes into
the high spin state it weighs 5/9ths of a gram. Okay. The reason it weighs 5/9ths of a gram is literally
that it is levitating on the earth's magnetic field.
And I will tell you that to watch this happen, I am telling
you people, it really upsets the chemist, it upsets people trying to do mass
balances on the material. But when the black gold goes white, when the
protonated gold goes white to the high spin state, it literally does not weigh
correctly because it is a magnetic material being weighed in a magnetic field.
Now the magnetic field normally is not a consideration.
Normally the earth's magnetic field of one or two gauss is not a factor. But
when you are dealing with a superconductor, this is an immense field. Okay.
Now, there are several books on superconductivity, that I
can recommend. Ah, one is called the
Physics of High Temperature Superconductors, by J. C. Phillips, he is with
AT&T Bell Laboratories, and here is the reference, Physics of High Temperature Superconductors, by J. C. Phillips. [J.
C. Phillips, Physics of High-Temperature
Superconductors, (Academic Press, San Diego, 1989)]
There is another very important book and this is pretty
heavy reading but is a great book, it is Amorphous
Solids and the Liquid State, which is a specialized area all its own, and
the authors are March, Street and Tosi, [Amorphous Solids and the Liquid State by
Norman H. March, Robert A. Street, Mario P. Tosi.]
and for people who work in superconductivity, people who work in amorphous
details, people who work with non metal bonded materials, this is a good
reference book. Okay.
And there is another one called, Superconductors and Super Fluids [perhaps High Temperature Superconductors And Other Superfluids
by A S Alexandrov and Nevill
Mott], and here is another good one, Introduction
to Superconductivity by Rose-Innes [Introduction to Superconductivity
(International Series in Solid State Physics; V. 6) by Alistair Christopher
Rose-Innes, E. H. Rhoderick].
I got it when I was over in London. It is co authored by the University of
Massachusetts, University of Manchester, Institute of Science and Technology.
It is Pergamon Press.
Anyway there are several things that are very important to
understand about superconductors and I brought this up in my introduction. I
didn't understand what superconductivity was and when we began to heat and cool
the stuff, the weight began to change all over the place, and it was
weighing... we were working with the material and it would go way down to fractions
of a milligram and here this material was gaining 300% of this weight and it
was going to less than the pan weighed and yet when we took it out and put
other materials in there everything was fine. We put this material in and
everything went crazy again.
And, when you realize how sensitive a superconductor is to
external magnetic fields, that number isn't important, and you are all taking
notes now so you can write it down, now, if you understand the earth's magnetic
field is somewhere, you know, it depends on where you are at in the earth, but
it may be 2 to 3 gauss, somewhere in that neighborhood. There is 1018
ergs in one gauss. So that is ten times itself eighteen times is equal to one
gauss. And a pure single element superconductor will respond to magnetic fields
of 2 x 10-15 ergs. That is .0000000000000002 (fifteen zeros and a 2)
of one erg.
Now if you are familiar with mathematics, what we are
talking about is nothing, I mean zilch, nothing. And it still causes this stuff
to flow. Literally it is the equivalent of the mass of a baseball compared to
the mass of the sun. It is like comparing the earth's magnetic field to what
this will experience, will cause light to flow inside this superconductor.
You know, the moral of the story is that they use a
superconducting ring to literally see your thoughts. Okay. They literally put
it around your head and they give you sour food and it lights up your brain and
they give you sweet food and it lights up another part of your brain. They give
you something that makes you mad and it lights up another part of your brain.
How do they see your brain? With this superconducting quantum interference
device which literally means that it is a superconductor and it literally sees
the thoughts in your brain.
Now the only reason that I am sharing this with you is I
want you to have some feeling of the sensitivity of this stuff to magnetic
fields. How the tiniest, tiniest magnetic field can cause changes in it. How
little do your thoughts and your thinking about the experiment is literally
part of the experiment. I mean they have talked here about the experimenter
being part of the experiment, this is it, boy, this is as much as it gets.
So, you know when we were working with this material we were
seeing these dramatic changes in weight and it was not true mass changes, it
was weigh-ability changes. Literally when it became... the material sat in a
little pan, and the pan set on the balance, and the material wasn't even
weighing what the pan weighed.
Now something strange is going on here, this doesn't... and
yet we checked the machine, we used standards and everything works fine, and
when we go back to this material and it doesn't work. I was there many of the
times when this was done. It was the interreaction of
the magnetic fields of the machine with the material and even though the
manufacturer of the machines says that it has no net magnetic field because of
the bifilar windings. And you can imagine that these wires went all the way
down and around and around in heating this material, and then it comes back up
going back around. The concept is that the two wires passing each other side by
side, they cancel each other's field and that is what they use in radios and
TVs. They call it bifilar winding.
But there is no way that those wires are in the same place.
You know, this one the field would go this way and this one the field would go
this way, but there is only a little bit of mismatch because they are in about
the same place, right, and that little bitty mismatch is nothing for ordinary
magnetic materials, but for a superconductor that is like 2 x 10-15
ergs. This field is immense.
So literally, with the material we said, "Could it
really be a superconductor?" "Could this high spin material be a
superconductor?" Well the test of superconductivity, what time are we now,
we have got about an hour, the test for superconductivity is ...is everybody
clear on what I told you that a superconductor by definition does not allow any
voltage potential to exist within the material. That is by definition. It
cannot have voltage potential.
Therefore, wires connected to the superconductor, and this
is a pure superconductor, you cannot get electricity off the wire and into the
superconductor, because that takes a voltage potential. By definition, it
doesn't allow a voltage potential. And so what you get is that the material is
an insulator, not a superconductor. It is only when you tune radiofrequency,
radiofrequency tune, the vibrational frequency of the wire to the wavelength of
the superconductor, that literally the electron flows on with no push at all.
It literally seeks the path of least resistance, which is the zero resistance.
Do you understand, so it literally, over time, the electrons start flowing onto
the superconductor. Okay.
You must understand that the electron is going onto the
superconductor as an electron pair. Therefore, we are talking about Bosonic
physics of light. We have lost all particle aspect to this electron. It only goes
onto the superconductor as light. So, you know there is Fermion Physics and
they are both Einstein physics. The Fermion, the electron, as it goes on the
superconductor pairs, and when it pairs it has no particle effect. It becomes
pure light.
Now, you can only put one electron at one space time. That
is why we have electron transitions on atoms, and this is spectroscopic
analysis. This is based on its residing here in this space time. We kick it up
to here and it is light, but now we have electron pairs and these electron
pairs can reside anywhere in infinite amounts. There is no limit you can put 50
zillion electron pairs in the same space time. And so the electricity that you
are putting into this superconductor doesn't have to come off. Okay.
You don't have to have another wire. So the energy is
continually going onto the superconductor and you don't have to have a wire to
take it off. This is not electricity. Remember, 1 told you. This is not
electricity. This is superconductivity.
The energy in the superconductor continues to grow and
continues to grow and there is no way to measure it by any instrumentation that
we know of once it is in the superconductor. Okay.
So materials that don't even look like they would ever
conduct can be a superconductor. Materials that are powder like cooking flour
may be superconductors, do you understand. Because they literally hold the
light within them. It really doesn't have to come off. It doesn't have to be
electrically conducted to be a superconductor.
It is what? It actually comes out the physics and all is
understood right now. And you find out that it is actually two-dimensional
resonance. Okay. There is no third dimensional vibration to it. It is actually
coupled in two dimensions. So what we have in a pile of this white powder is an
atom that is resonating back and forth, a quantum oscillator, and it creates a
Coulomb wave. It runs out both directions from it.
Other atoms ,as you anneal it, will move over and get into
this resonance wave, coupled with the resonance wave and perpetuate the wave.
Another high spin atom will nestle in that wave and perpetuate that wave and
another will nestle in that wave and perpetuate the wave, another will nestle
in that wave and perpetuate and literally what you will get is that you get a
two dimensional coupled material that literally resonance couples all the way
around.
And in the same way that an electron gets on one atom and
goes around it forever and ever on its wave, now the system has a wave and the
electron gets on it and goes around forever and ever and ever. It is, in fact,
the same energy that is running an atom that is running the billions of atoms
and they literally have created now this harmonic wave and resonance coupling
in two dimensions. Okay. Is everybody picturing this now?
It literally is in two dimensions. Other atoms sitting in
the third dimension on either side have no involvement in this. It is part of
another two dimensional oscillator, but not part of this one.
Okay. And in passing, copper is not that noble. Copper is
not noble, it corrodes and rusts and is quite non noble. You can put it into yttrium oxide, for example, and
by repeated annealing, what happens is that you have barium oxide with an
alkaline earth. You have copper which is an acid metal, barium is hydroscopic
and picks up moisture. When you heat it you dehydrate it and what happens is
that the moisture breaks into hydroxide with a barium and a hydrogen with an
acid because it is an acid metal. And you cool it and then it equates again and
you heat it and happens again. What happens with repeated annealing is that the
copper breaks into the fundamental state.
It just so happens that yttrium barium oxide, just happens
to form a crystalline structure whereby the coppers are in two dimensions. The
yttrium barium oxide is like an egg crate, okay. And the copper is the eggs
that are specifically spaced and specific distances from each other so that as
the resonance waves start, the copper just happens to be at the right spacing
in this matrix. And so yttrium barium copper oxide is really elemental copper
in a yttrium barium matrix. It is not copper oxide. Copper oxide implies
chemistry and this elemental copper. Yes there is an oxygen lying next to it,
but it is not part of the chemistry, it is not part of the physics. It is not
part of the superconductivity. Okay.
People investigating yttrium barium copper oxide know this
now. They know something isn't quite right. They know that the copper is
binding with something but apparently it is not the oxygen. What they don't
know is that it literally... there is a nuclear transitional change that occurs
right when it goes into the superconducting state. It goes into a high spin
state and in its high spin state it superconducts. The neat thing about it is
that with chemistry the yttrium barium oxide, they are able to break the
metal/metal bonds, and so it doesn't take that much cooling to start it
superconducting.
The beauty of the heavier elements like gold is that gold is
so noble that you can't put it in a yttrium barium oxide and ever get it to
become elemental. But when it does become elemental, which you can do through
processes we have learned, it doesn't even need a matrix. It is its own matrix.
It is so strong a resonance wave that it literally will bind itself by itself
and instead of being two and two and one half angstroms apart between atom
centers like it is in metal, it actually is out at five and one half to six
angstroms in this Coulomb wave. And though it is too far apart to be sharing
electrons, it literally is in its resonance wave where these atoms are all
oscillating in perfect unison, back and forth, back and forth and the old
saying, "in the one is the all and in the all is the one."
If you talk to a physicist he will tell you that the physics
of a superconductor is identical to the physics of the atom. What is going on
is literally billions of atoms acting like one macro-atom. And that is what
superconductivity is. In fact, the man is right, that is exactly what it is. If
it is the same, with lasers and understanding of lazing and light waves, this
is understandable now.
The key to it is that these elements go to the high spin
state. These elements transform themselves to a high spin state naturally and
the key to it is that you break the metal/metal bonds and when you do that they
literally will go to the high spin state on their own. Okay,
Question: I have a question. (Unintelligible)
Hudson’s response: You are talking superconducting. There is a resonant perturbation
of it with the yttrium barium oxide. It is very slight and so it does have to
be cooled a little bit before it begins to superconduct
so that the interference of the yttrium barium oxide ceases and allows it to do
its thing.
The beauty of the
other elements is that they don't even need a matrix. Once you have created
them in this state they assume this resonance coherence.
Now the strange thing
about it is that this is just like this air. Right now there is air in this
room, but you cannot see it but it is there. Well, literally when this material
is in perfect superconducting state you can't see it. It literally is as
invisible as the air. But don't believe that it is gone. You just can't see it
because as you cool it back down it starts appearing around the edges first and
it is exactly the same shape it was before, and it just never left, it just
went into this perfect resonance state where you can't see it any more.
(Unintelligible question)
Hudson’s response: That is right. By definition it excludes
all external magnetic fields.
Now, I don't know about you all. Would you like to take a 5
or 10 minute break and get a drink of water, wake up, you know. Or just order
air. Why don't we take, a break, so we wake ourselves up for say ten minutes,
use the bathroom and come back and we will go again. Okay.
The National
Laboratory has confirmed that the asymmetrically deformed high spin nucleus,
when it is heated or disturbed to a point that its quadripole
moment would alter, it emits gamma radiation and does not fission, so it is
like a gamma emitting source. We found that heating it to 800 degrees under a
controlled atmosphere and it literally destroys every container that you put it
into. And we suspected it was gamma radiation, very short wave of light.
We went up to Dr.
Jones at the University of Utah, who was the one who came up with the theory of
cold fusion. We gave him not enough to cover your fingernail of the monoatomic
iridium in the hydrogen form and the proton came loose it didn't use the amount
we suggested it use at all and it destroyed not only his detector, it destroyed
his tube, it destroyed everything and he said, "Dave, I didn't get a
reading out of it, it literally shattered everything." I said, "Well,
I want to know what that energy is." We have since been to Oakridge
National Laboratory and they have confirmed it and published the fact in the
Scientific American, and their words were that "something is very
different that is going on right here. It is not something we know."
Question: There is something that I would like to understand
and anyone in the audience can call and tell me later if you cannot answer this
question. But people here are telling us that it is all found in vibration and
so I have the idea that if somebody was willing they could take a radionic machine or the equal of it and zap me with a
vibration that was high enough to achieve my ascension, so my question is, what
is the difference between, is this product or this manna, it is just a
radiation like it has a signature or a vibration signature and could I
eventually, is it conceivable that eventually we will get that vibration from a
machine force rather than having to go through this. Do you understand? Does
anybody understand what I am trying to ask?
Hudson’s response: I think I do. I will try to answer that.
The important thing here is that it is a superconductor. And superconductor has
nothing to do with electricity. Okay. People, in due respect everybody wishes
magnetic field therapies and all, a superconductor responds to magnetic field
just like an ordinary conductor, but if you grasp, and this is the test for
superconductivity, because you cannot measure it directly, how can you find out
that you have a superconductor? The proof of superconductivity is the applied
voltage potential, and if you grasp this, voltage potential versus amperage,
okay. As you increase the voltage potential the amperage increases in an
ordinary conductor so the chart goes up like this. In this quadrant. If you
reverse it, it goes down here and so it is positive negative, positive
negative. A superconductor, as you increase the voltage potential, it goes
negative. Okay. That is proof of a superconductor.
Literally, superconductors are in your body now, they
literally are flowing the light of life in your body. But, it is not external.
When you are filled with the spirit, then you are filled with the light,
literally you appear to glow. Literally, when you walk into a room people say,
"My God, look at that person over there." They literally light up the
room when they walk in. To do that literally the superconductor has to be
totally filling your body and the aura becomes external, rather than internal.
So instead of the residuum from the aura, you literally see all of it and it is
on the outside of your body. I don't believe that there is any way to induce
this into your body without the receivers themselves that run on it. And so,
you can receive it by eating the proper foods, the proper herbal extract, as
holy men, but as science is progressing, we are learning what it really is in
the herbs and I can give it to you pure. Okay.
Question: I am not sure how to phrase this question.
Considering all of the comments that we have had with speakers directing their
attention to the sabotage and to the conflict in the communities and to the
political situation, have you, in your work, felt any of this sabotage, or you
have mentioned that you have been published and you have gone to the
traditional community of science. Have you felt any pressure from any external
source that you would like to comment on, and if you have, what have you done
to preserve the methodology if you were to die or something was to happen to
you.
Hudson’s response: Basically the only problem that I have
had is financial and you can't spend five and one half million dollars of your
own money without having some problems. My bankers decided in 1982 that they
should stop me from doing this esoteric work and I am still doing it, so you
know what relationship I have with my agricultural bankers. Other than that,
no, I can't say that I have had any problems. I do understand these other
speaker's concerns and I can tell you that I agree with virtually every one of
them. It is just no big deal because the New World Order is coming and that is
it. Question: Yes, David, many of us are not that technically oriented in a
crowd of people like myself, what is going to occur if you wake up tomorrow
morning.
Hudson’s response: Tomorrow we are going to talk about the specific
medical applications, the results we have seen, the test data, what we are
doing now and what the results have been from the tests up to now and where
this appears to be going. We are also going to talk about the four practical
applications.
I don't know about you, but I don't belong to a church but I
definitely do believe in the Bible. I just think that it is not complete, that
is all. It was Rome's attempt to provide us with the books, but there are a lot
of other books that should have been in it also that were called the Holy
Scriptures. And, you know, if the people here will tolerate, I will discuss
some philosophical implications, rather than religious because I don't want to
get into institutional religion.
There are a whole bunch of things about this that are going
to be involved in the practical implementation of it and the players, these
last true latter day saints, are not going to be unnoticed by Utah. And so, you
know, there is a part that the establishment in Utah has to play in it. Joseph
Smith that began this actually was contacted by Enoch, and you know he has
since changed his mind and said that it was Jesus Christ, but originally it was
Enoch and you know it truly was Enoch and he was to prepare the centers around
the world so that this material could be introduced. They have names for this
knowledge. It is part of the order of Enoch, they called it and Joseph Smith
said that he knew that he didn't have this capability at this time and we hope
that we are prepared to receive it when it comes.
Well, at the point that this is scientifically understood,
accepted and all, they will welcome it. It literally means the disbandment of
the church when the true latter day saints come to the earth. There is a whole
bunch of things that they will have to get used and there are people within
that organization that will fight it but there are also people that will
welcome it and you can't argue with what is happening and so I just say,
"brace yourself, it is coming."
Question: David, you talked a little earlier about the
magnetic field of the body and the spiral energy field as we now know it and
when this supercharging takes place in the body that the external field is
going to be pure white light and it is not going to be inside the body, is that
what you are saying? Well it Would you go into that a little bit more because
what I am thinking here is that if you your electromagnetic field now sort of
resonates and it acts like a magnet and it attracts experiences to you, how do
you think it will differ later and the differences with the light outside. Will
it have any kind of magnetism to it?
Hudson’s response: Ah, gee, I don't know if I understand
exactly what you are asking. The superconductivity is a surface phenomenon and
so if you have some superconductor you spread it out real fine over the ground
it dramatically is affected by the magnetic field. If you bring it all together
in a clump, it has less surface area. It is only the outside part that is
affected. We have this all dispersed through our bodies, basically it is all
affected, but it is inside our body, and all we see is the field. As our body
is filled with this, and the light density increases, within our body.
Eventually you get to the point where literally the field cannot get inside of
it and it is literally on the outside of us and so, inside we exist within this
envelope of light, okay. We have this physical body inside but literally the
pure Meissner field is around our body. It keeps the external magnetic fields
out the all radiation, ultra violet radiation, all of this can't get in.
It might be interesting for people to understand that there
materials that can kill these atoms. This is important. I skipped over it in my
hurry. The elements are basically carbon, and carbon monoxide, sulphites, So3, nitrogen oxide and shortwave
length--ultraviolet light, or shorter. Those are the four main things that kill
this material in the body.
Unfortunately you can't not breathe. And the day you took
your first breath of air one percent of the air in your body was nitrous oxide
and so the rhodium and iridium in your body is literally going out. Every
breath of air some of these atoms stop doing what they are supposed to be
doing, you are dying. You went through your teen years, your early twenties and
then it just kind of went down hill from there. Literally, the light of life is
going out in our bodies. Part of life.
You can eat vegetables and herbs and all and it make your
light stronger and last longer, but you are talking about maybe one hundred or
one hundred and fifty years at the most, but we are talking about is literally
perfecting the body totally. With gold and gold is no longer pinned with
nitrous oxide. You can breathe the oxide and not die, so to speak.
Gold is the special one. It is the one that doesn't react
with these elements. The gold is special and that is why the testing with the
gold has been set aside and it is to happen though very soon. It will... and I
know that you would like to know what the results of the gold and can I state
this and I will have to say, "No, we are not at that point now. I am sorry
but you are aware of it and we will be doing this in the future."
Do you feel better already?
(Applause.
End of lecture.)